I'm Jane Marie, and this is the dream.

So how's everybody feeling about the government today?

Notice anything awry?

Like, I don't know, a bunch of highly unqualified people being hired to run this place into the ground.

We spoke with today's guest five years ago during our season on wellness.

My name is Anna Merlin and I'm a senior reporter at Mother Jones.

Don't worry, you don't need to go hunting for the episode.

We're going to replay it right here tomorrow.

But she came on to talk about conspiracy theories in wellness, including a big one, that vaccines somehow cause autism.

They don't. But people think they do. But there's this guy, he's like really famous and he,

even though that's not true, like he really wants it to be true for some reason. He like loves it.

And he is now our health secretary,

RFK Jr. The picture of health. I mean, who better than anti-vaxxer and weird creepozoid,

RFK Jr. to, you know, be in charge of literally in charge of our bodies. It's going to be

exciting, guys. A lot of, A lot of stuff's going to happen.

You know what?

I'm already vaccinated, though, so I'm not as scared as like, I don't know, all the new babies should be.

So, okay, so we're here to talk about RFK Jr. and all this. So yesterday.

Yes.

Were you surprised or not surprised at all that he got confirmed?

I was not. No.

As the head of the Department of Health and Human Services.

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