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America Dissected

MAHA Comes for Vaccine

America Dissected

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Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Abdul and Katelyn discuss a busy week in health news including: The most troubling aspects of this week's ACIP meeting, after RFK Jr's appointees convened to set vaccine policy for next fall. A flimsy deal among the nation's biggest health insurers, who mutually pinky-promised to improve their prior authorization processes. RFK Jr's announcement that the US will no longer fund GAVI, the global organization that vaccinates poor children around the world. A new court order that demands the Trump Administration reinstate hundreds of NIH grants. Then Abdul sits down with author and legal expert Leah Litman to discuss the biggest SCOTUS rulings of the year, and what it means for the future of public health. Check out our shop at store.americadissected.com for our new America Dissected merch – including logo shirts, hoodies and mugs. And don’t miss our “Vaccines Matter. Science Works.” t-shirts! This show would not be possible without the generous support of our sponsors. America Dissected invites you to check them out. This episode was brought to you by: Boll & Branch: Feel the difference an extraordinary night’s sleep can make. Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/ad

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0:00.0

Maha comes for vaccines.

0:10.1

This is American Dissected.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Dr. Abdull-Wal-Said.

0:12.8

And I'm your co-host, Dr. Caitlin Jettelina.

0:15.3

And we're taping this on Friday, June 27th at 11 a.m.

0:18.7

Eastern time.

0:20.3

And here we go. So, Caitlin, just, just, just quick,

0:27.1

quick vibe check for us. How's your aura? I don't know, man. This week, ACIP, I know we're

0:33.3

going to get into it. Like, completely, I don't know, every day it's different. Like, one day I find hope

0:39.4

and then another day, it just completely bogged down. I don't know. How are you feeling, Abdul?

0:45.1

Yeah. I mean, look, the hard part about it is, this is kind of like watching a movie that you know

0:51.1

is a horror movie, but like the whole setup to the beginning of the horror movie is getting you to like the main characters. And then you know in the end, there's going to be screams. One of them is going to die. Yeah. It's like it's going to be bad news. But like at the beginning of the movie, you kid yourself into thinking that like this is just another rom-com, except for you know somebody's going to die so anyway all of that is to say

1:11.3

that i feel like we're now in the like end part of the horror show that we all kind of knew we

1:16.4

were getting into when we sat down in those seats and started eating popcorn and like here we are

1:20.8

this is that part so the other part of it though is is the reminder that once once the horror scenes

1:25.8

are done like there is a there is an end to this.

1:29.6

And I just think sometimes we make two mistakes to have thought that it wasn't coming.

1:34.1

And then the second is not to remember that actually history doesn't end after they try and gut all of

1:40.1

the vaccine infrastructure. And I just try and remind myself both of those things.

1:44.3

Yeah, I agree. I think the biggest question is like, we're going to have to do this for another

1:49.3

three and a half years or even longer. Like I, I mean, you're right. There's these dark periods

1:57.1

that happen. And that is, this is, you know, not, uh, individualized to just this moment.

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