Welcome to Think Bivocally, Conversations on Faith and Culture, a podcast from

Taubal Theology Biola University.

I'm your host, Sean McDowell, Professor of Apologetics.

And I'm your co-host, Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty,

and Professor of Christian Ethics.

Today we have a wonderful guest with us,

a returning guest we've had multiple times.

You will recognize him because he is an influential thinker, writer, author, and today

Os Guinness is back because he has a new book called Magna Carta of Humanity.

Another fascinating read I've thoroughly enjoyed going

through. Dr Guinness, thanks so much for coming on. A real pleasure Sean and

Scott. Thanks for having me. Of course. Well let me ask you what's the

heartbeat of this book? What motivated you at this moment to focus on this message?

Well I'm trying to address the heart of the American crisis because put it in a

broader sense we're at a civilizational moment with the decline of the West

and the American Republic going through a crisis,

every bit as serious as the Civil War, you can see this is an extraordinary moment.

So I'm trying to address what's gone wrong but then go

beyond that it's not just a diagnosis to try and suggest a way forward so that we

can recapture the brilliance of the best of the American experiment.

You start off the book with some powerful words that your father spoke to you in January

of 1949.

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