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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Maggie O'Farrell on "Hamnet"

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Folger Shakespeare Library

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4.8 • 879 Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Anne and William Shakespeare’s son Hamnet died in 1596, when he was 11 years old. We don’t know too much more about him. But novelist Maggie O’Farrell’s new book "Hamnet" delves into his story and comes away with a lyrical and moving portrait of a family’s grief. The novel is focused not so much on William Shakespeare—in fact, O’Farrell never actually mentions his name in the book—as it is on his family back in Stratford, and how they cope with Hamnet’s tragic death. On this episode, we talk to Maggie O’Farrell about how the idea for "Hamnet" came to her, the way she imagines Shakespeare and his family, and what she learned in the process of writing the book. She is interviewed by Barbara Bogaev. Maggie O'Farrell is the author of eight novels: "After You'd Gone"; "My Lover's Lover"; "The Distance Between Us"; "The Vanishing Act of Esme Lennox"; "The Hand That First Held Mine; Instructions for a Heatwave"; and "This Must Be the Place." Her latest, "Hamnet," was published in the US by Knopf in 2020. It has been short listed for the 2020 Women’s Prize for Fiction. From the Folger’s Shakespeare Unlimited podcast. Published August 4, 2020. © Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This podcast episode, “O My Son, My Son!” was produced by Richard Paul. Garland Scott is the associate producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster. Ben Lauer is the web producer. We had technical help from Andrew Feliciano and Evan Marquart at Voice Trax West in Studio City, California.

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0:00.0

Shakespeare had a son. When he was 11 years old, he died. It's safe to say, that's all you know about him.

0:10.6

Now let a novelist get hold of his story. Suddenly, there's so much more.

0:27.6

From the Folger Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited. I'm Michael Whitmore, the Folgers director.

0:30.6

Maggie O'Farrell writes beautiful lyrical novels.

0:34.6

Now there have been plenty of those written about Shakespeare, but with her

0:38.4

newest effort, Maggie has tried something different. She's written a Shakespeare novel that never

0:44.7

actually mentions the writer's name. That's because the center of attention is not the artist himself,

0:51.2

but his family back home in Stratford. Specifically, his son who died during the

0:57.0

plague outbreak in 1596 and the child's mother who tried frantically to save him. The novel is called

1:04.9

Hamnet, and at the time we're recording this, it's on the shortlist for the Women's Prize for Fiction.

1:18.2

That's the competition created after the 1991 Booker Prize shortlist had no novels by women on it.

1:24.2

Maggie O'Farrell joined us recently from her home in Edinburgh where she and her children are locked down during our own plague outbreak. There are spots in this interview where

1:28.6

the audio quality isn't everything we'd like it to be. We hope you'll understand under the

1:33.7

circumstances. We call this podcast, Oh, My Son, My Son. Maggie O'Farrell is interviewed by

1:40.9

Barbara Bogave. When did you first hear the story of Shakespeare's son, Hamnut?

1:47.0

Well, it was a very long time ago.

1:49.0

I was about 16, rising 17, and I was at school.

1:54.0

And I was lucky enough to have an absolutely brilliant English teacher.

2:00.0

And he mentioned in passing while we were studying the play

2:02.7

that Shakespeare had a son called Hemnett,

2:05.0

who died about four years or so before Shakespeare broke the play.

2:10.6

And even though, you know, I was a very long way off, obviously,

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