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These are just anecdotes, but it's building up into something more coherent.

I think it'd be interesting to really try to unravel what his ties.

There's a sort of country-city divide for their own convenient,

and it's not clear where it goes next.

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Maggie, this interview is quite something. I want to start with what he told you about Attorney General Sessions. What did he have to say?

Look, he was very clearly frustrated with Jeff Sessions. He very bluntly said that...

Long before she was a White House correspondent at the New York Times,

Maggie Haberman was a local reporter for the New York Post and the Daily News,

the tabloids that really get into the politics and personalities of New York City,

which is to say she had a front row seat to the Donald J. Trump show for a very long time.

Covering Trump as the leader of the free world, though, is something altogether different.

The president sometimes isn't very happy with her, and in a moment of peak, he called Haberman a third-rate reporter.

But it's clear that she's also earned his wary respect. Last week when Trump went

after his Attorney General Jeff Sessions, an astonishing public takedown that will end God

knows how, it was Haberman and her colleagues from the Times who were in the room and got the story.

I talked with Maggie Haberman last week. From outside, it seems like we're looking at a

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