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The Bunker

MAGA vs. the cartels: Is Trump's war on Mexico's gangs backfiring?

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

As Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum ramps up high-tech crackdowns on the nation’s cartels, Trump’s chaotic second term is throwing a spanner in the works. Alex von Tunzelmann speaks to David Shirk, Professor of Political Science and International Relations at the University of San Diego, to find out whether the MAGA movement is helping Mexico’s fight against organised crime or making things worse. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Written and presented by Alex von Tunzelmann. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome back to The Bunker, News Without the Nonsense. I'm Alex von Tunselman.

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Now Donald Trump's hostility toward the U.S.-Mexico border is back with a vengeance.

1:25.8

I'm sure we'll remember from his first term, Build the Wall and some extremely offensive comments about Mexicans.

1:29.6

Now, in his second term, Trump's ratcheting up pressure on Mexico by applying tariffs, threatening to label drug cartels as terrorist groups, and even

1:35.8

hinting at direct military intervention. That puts Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum in a difficult

1:42.6

position. She's already ramped up arrests and

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extraditions and is rolling out data-driven policing across the country in an effort to tackle

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