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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello, and welcome to DSR's Words Matter. I'm David Rothkopf, and I'm joined as ever

for our weekly therapy session with Dr. Norman Ornstein, famous psychotherapist. Well, maybe he's not

a psychotherapist, but he is the source of our mental health here in the words matter universe. How are you doing today,

No. Well, I'm not a psychotherapist, but I did spend the night at the Holiday Inn Express.

Sound like Kennedy. Okay. I'm hanging in, David, but I must say I was a little gobsmack to learn

about your family's relationship with the late and remarkable

Tom Stoppard. Can you elaborate a little bit? That's quite something. Well, it's not, I mean,

thank you, but not. I, I don't, it's, there's actually an interesting story behind it. I will tell the

interesting story. Many, many, you know,

eons ago, before the beginning of the First World War, there was a Jewish boy in Cleveland,

Ohio, named Louis Cohn. And Louis Cohn was like bored in Cleveland, Ohio. And so what he did

was he went to France, and he tried to join the French army to join the Great War.

And they were like, well, what do we do with the Jew?

We don't like Jews much.

And they sort of said, okay, we'll make him into some kind of spy, forward observer.

And so he joins the French army, supports the French general staff,

actually wins the Qua de Guerr a couple of times and, you know, decides I like France

better than Ohio.

So I'm going to try to figure out a way to stay here.

Somehow in the midst of all of this, he meets this woman who's my great aunt, they get

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