MAGA Granny Refuses J6 Pardon
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
4.6 • 9.1K Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Rick dissects "MAGA Granny" Pamela Hemphill's journey on J6 and with the MAGA cult, exploring what led her to join the group and what ultimately opened her eyes and prompted her exit.
Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X or at https://bsky.app/profile/therickwilson.bsky.social at Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com.
Join the fight with Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow us on X at @ProjectLincoln.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hey, folks, it's Rick. I want to thank you so much for listening and watching the Lincoln Project podcast. It means the world to us that you give us your time and your attention and your focus while we talk about the pro-democracy movement in this country, even in this time of tremendous national peril. This is not easy, well, not even an easy moment for people. |
| 0:22.9 | I understand and we understand it, the Lincoln Project, |
| 0:27.1 | sometimes you feel like it's all lost. |
| 0:30.6 | Sometimes you feel like we can't fight against this damn thing. |
| 0:34.9 | Sometimes you feel like the mountain is too high to climb and there's nothing we can do. |
| 0:37.3 | I want to tell you something, and I mean this from |
| 0:40.5 | the bottom of my heart, you are not allowed to give up. You were not allowed to stop. We're |
| 0:48.4 | Americans. This big, broken, messy country of ours still has value and virtue and goodness. It still has |
| 0:58.2 | hope and optimism. We are going to fight a long fight against this guy. We're going to fight a long |
| 1:04.3 | fight against the evils that his administration is going to try to do. We're going to stand up |
| 1:10.6 | and speak out because the one thing, the day you |
| 1:14.5 | lose is the day you shut up in the face of evil. The day you lose your power to fight is the day |
| 1:21.9 | you shut your mouth when they're doing the when they're doing the things they're doing. And whether |
| 1:26.3 | it's crazy or cruel |
| 1:28.2 | or performative or dangerous or illegal or unconstitutional all those things require you as a |
| 1:35.6 | citizen to stand up keep fighting stay in the stay in the stay in the fight if you walk away from |
| 1:42.2 | this there's nowhere to run you can't run to can't nowhere to run. You can't run to Canada. You can't |
| 1:46.7 | run to England. You can't run to Italy. Running away is not an option for the vast majority of |
| 1:53.2 | Americans. The idea that this country deserves people who will fight for it, I think it's still absolutely central to our mission here |
| 2:03.2 | at the Lincoln Project and central to my mission as one of that lonely tribe of former |
| 2:11.5 | Republican conservatives who believe that the rule of law and limited government and restraints on state power and also |
| 2:20.5 | honor and integrity and dignity and character and compassion we're not anathema to conservative values but |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Lincoln Project, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of The Lincoln Project and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.