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MAGA Doesn't Understand Anything About The Roman Empire (w/ Honor Cargill-Martin)

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Current Affairs

Politics, Culture, Government, Comedy, News

4.6673 Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Honor Cargill-Martin, a historian of the ancient world, discusses how myths about the Roman empire originated and continue to warp our political discourse.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Current Affairs.

0:11.2

My name is Nathan Robinson.

0:12.2

I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine.

0:16.3

And it is our great privilege to be joined today by Honor Cargill Martin.

0:23.6

She is a historian of the ancient world.

0:27.1

She is currently studying for a doctorate at Oxford, focusing on political sex scandals in ancient Rome.

0:34.5

She's written about ancient history for the New York Times, for the Telegraph.

0:39.5

She also runs the substack, It's All Ancient History. Her books include Messalina, Empress,

0:48.9

Adulterous Liberty, and the story of the most notorious woman of the Roman world available from Pegasus Books,

0:56.1

about which the New York Times calls it lively and sardonic,

1:01.4

and the Sunday Telegraph says that your writing achieves a rare, old-fashioned, waspish elegance,

1:09.1

which I like.

1:10.7

Onoccago Martin is also the author of the book for children.

1:14.1

She speaks the women of Greek myths in their own words.

1:20.1

And she recently starred in a YouTube video that is how I discovered her work in which

1:25.0

she reviews for half an hour the historical accuracy and

1:30.1

inaccuracies in Monty Python's classic 1979 comedy The Life of Brian.

1:35.6

And my kind of conclusion from your video was that it was more accurate than you might expect

1:40.5

The Life of Brian Day.

1:41.3

Oh my God, it was, it was so accurate.

1:43.5

I had always loved that film and

1:45.4

I knew they were all like very clever and well educated so I knew it would be kind of have

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