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A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

MAGA Bonds And Pro-Natalist White Supremacy with Professor Sandy Darity

A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

Gabe Dunn | Diamond MPrint Productions

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4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

One of the architects of the baby bonds idea, economist William “Sandy” Darity Jr, joins the show again to discuss Trump’s twisted take on them. What are MAGA bonds and why are they not the answer to wealth inequity? Sandy and Gabe try to imagine a better world for all families and children.


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0:00.0

You got told a lot of lies about a cheat man.

0:03.4

They called you when they got you to believe it.

0:06.1

Thumb and finger held to their foreheads in an L show trapped in a capital of salescape.

0:10.7

Let's fight back in have some talks about class in the massive costs of the disasters.

0:16.0

Blots are fascists and Nazis and Nazis and Nazis.

0:19.1

It's a thousand natural shocks, a bad with money podcast.

0:23.3

Hello and welcome to A Thousand Natural Shocks, a Bad With Money podcast.

0:28.3

I'm your host, Gabe S. Dunn.

0:30.6

And with me today, we have a repeat guest, Sandy Darity, aka William Darity, but he goes by Sandy.

0:37.4

And if you read my book Bad With Money, he is one of the people I interview in that from

0:41.7

years and years ago.

0:43.2

And when I first heard about Trump's idea for MAGA Bonds, I knew that I had to talk to

0:48.2

Sandy because he is one of the architects of the Baby Bonds idea.

0:53.7

And this is a sort of twisted and incorrect version of that.

0:59.7

And so I wanted to get his opinion on Trump's idea for a baby bonds situation, question mark, question mark.

1:08.7

And talk about what the baby bonds would actually look like and what

1:12.5

an idealistic future of equity could look like. This is a pretty optimistic conversation.

1:19.2

Sandy's an optimistic person. And so let's find out what exactly is wrong with Maga bonds and what that

1:26.3

means for Republicans push to privatize social security.

1:30.8

Okay, give it a listen.

1:32.3

Hello and welcome to a thousand natural shocks.

1:35.2

I'm your host, Gabe S. Dunn.

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