Mafia States of America | Episode 4 - "Mob vs Government"
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4.4 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
In Episode 4 of Mafia States of America, Sammy Gravano and Michael Franzese expose the ties between organized crime and government. From Hoover and the Kennedys to bribes, unions, and corruption, nothing is off limits in this explosive sit-down.
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| 0:00.0 | Previously on Mafia States of America. |
| 0:18.0 | Was there names? |
| 0:19.0 | Was there anything when you met with the Feds? Yes. They asked me about a lot of stuff. Okay. And I didn't tell them. We talked with that, but he didn't tell them. Sammy, you did this, this, this, and this, because of that, you were a rat. America is a piece of shit if you don't agree to it. If you't agree to it it's nothing do I why are they |
| 0:39.0 | talking about me either of you regret breaking the oath or no which if you had to |
| 0:44.3 | done it again would you would you have done it the same exact way after you were |
| 0:46.8 | a second time around what I should have done I was in jail with John I should |
| 0:52.5 | have killed him in prison that's what you should have done and did life in jail with John, I should have killed him in prison. |
| 0:55.3 | That's what you should have done. |
| 0:56.9 | And did life without the world. |
| 1:03.8 | There are a few people that are genetically inherently bad, evil, but most people are shaped that way by circumstances. |
| 1:07.9 | America's sweet. |
| 1:17.6 | America. God's change is on thee. |
| 1:22.6 | Oh, we're proud of you. I think of bed and sea to shine sea |
| 1:31.3 | Yeah |
| 1:33.3 | He cried |
| 1:35.3 | Like it |
| 1:37.3 | River |
| 1:38.3 | The sea to |
| 1:42.3 | shine and see. |
| 1:45.0 | The mob life is a paradox. |
| 1:55.0 | These guys do it for the money, but the more money they made, |
| 1:58.0 | the more the government wants them. |
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