We're about a million a month right now is about what our average is.

So, and that's been growing.

It's hard to tell because it's new.

It's been growing a lot.

But we think it'll flatten out probably be like 20% monthly growth here over the next couple years.

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Hey, folks. My guest today is J.B. Kellogg. He's the co-founder and co-CEO of Madwire

and Marketing 360s. He's a 3X top and co-CEO of Madwire and Marketing 360s.

He's a 3x top CEO award winner by Glassdoor and 8 times Inc. 5,000 fast-scoring company.

4X Glassdoor, best place to work. But more importantly, he left us out of the bio, but I love it.

Bootstrap founder, let's say very capital efficient founder worth more than $100 million in AR. J.B. Kellogg, are you ready to take us to the top? I am. I appreciate you. Glad to being here.

I can't say fully bootstrap. But anytime someone's raised way less than their ARR,

I can say like they're bootstrapped, right?

Right, pretty much. And we were for the first five years legitimately. So what did you do then?

You do like $7 million or something, right? Seven million, yeah, seven and a half. Why'd you do that? I mean, you're crushing it, it sounds like. Yeah, we were growing really well,

but we thought we could grow a lot quicker and could use some of that additional capital.

So we found some partners that we liked and went with it. And that was what, 2015? That was in a 20, yeah, 15, 14 right in that area. Yeah. What, do you remember,

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