Madeline Mann on Reverse the Search: Turning Job Seeking into Job Shopping

Beyond the To-Do List - Productivity for Work and Life

Erik Fisher

Business, Entrepreneurship, Self-improvement, Careers, Education

4.5 • 875 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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In this episode, Madelin Mann, author of Reverse the Search: How to Turn Job Seeking into Job Shopping, joins the show to share her expert advice on transforming the traditional job search process. With years of experience in HR and recruiting, Madelin provides valuable insights into how to stand out in today’s competitive job market by shifting from a job seeker to a job shopper. In this conversation, we explore: • Reversing the Job Search: Madelin explains how to rethink job seeking by focusing on human interactions and leveraging networking rather than relying solely on online applications. • The Problems with Traditional Job Applications: From AI filtering to an overwhelming number of applications, Madelin breaks down why the traditional job application process is broken and how to avoid getting lost in the noise. • The Power of Networking: Madelin shares how building meaningful relationships can lead to unlisted job opportunities and help you land roles before they even hit the job boards. • Interviewing Like a Pro: We discuss how to position yourself as the perfect fit for a role by focusing on both competency and likability during interviews, and why you should approach interviews as collaborations. • Negotiating with Confidence: Madelin offers a fresh perspective on salary and benefits negotiation, emphasizing collaboration rather than competition to secure the best offers. If you’re currently in the job search process or just want to improve your career strategy, Madelin’s approach will help you become the sought-after candidate that companies are eager to hire. Learn more about Madeline and her book Reverse the Search at ReversetheSearch.com. Connect with Erik: LinkedIn Facebook Bluesky This Podcast is Powered By: Descript Descript 101 Castmagic Ecamm Podpage Rodecaster Pro Top Productivity Books List Make sure to support the show by checking out the sponsors! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome back to Beyond the To Do List, a podcast about productivity.
0:21.4	I'm your host, Eric Fisher, and I'm excited to welcome to the show Madeline Mann.
0:25.6	She's an HR expert and author of the new book, Reverse the Search, How to Turn Job Seeking into Job Shopping.
0:33.3	In this conversation, we talk about how to move beyond the traditional job application process
0:37.9	and how to shift into a job shopping mindset where you're positioning yourself as the solution
0:44.4	to a company's needs.
0:45.9	Madeline explains how to avoid the pitfalls of AI filtering, why networking and human connections
0:52.1	are crucial to uncovering unlisted opportunities, which I can say from my experience is where most of the time the action happens, and also how to approach interviews and negotiations with confidence.
1:04.6	So if you're ready to take control of your job search, this conversation with Madeline Mann is perfect for you.
1:14.3	Well, it is my privilege to welcome to the show, Madeline Man.
1:18.4	Madeline, welcome to beyond the to do list.
1:21.4	Thank you so much.
1:22.5	Great to be here.
1:23.3	You've been working in HR and recruiting for so long, and now you've got this book, which
1:28.3	I'm kind of surprised we've never actually talked about job search processes and processing
1:35.9	before. Your new book, Reverse the Search, How to Turn Job Seeking into Job Shopping, is out now. It's brand new. And I'm curious, like,
1:47.9	you've obviously been working on this for so long. This feels like a holy grail in some
1:52.0	senses in the right time for sure. But what pushed you to release this now?
1:57.7	I have been working exactly as you said in human resources for so long, seeing at scale what gets people to land interviews and land job offers.
2:10.6	And it wasn't simply having the right qualifications. As a matter of fact, tons of people who weren't appropriately qualified, I was
2:17.7	seeing landing offers, whereas other people who had all the bells and whistles were falling to the
2:23.6	waist side. And I saw this over years and years, coached thousands of people. And now we see this
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