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🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Actor Madeleine McGraw joins us on the couch for the first time to discuss her return as Gwen — Finney’s protective younger sister from 2021’s Black Phone — now back for Black Phone 2. Ethan Hawke’s horrifying character, The Grabber, might have died in the first film, but he’s back too. Turns out his malevolent force can’t be contained by the grave.
Originally based on a short story by Joe Hill — horror maestro Stephen King’s son — this sequel finds the siblings several years on from the first installment, now in a wild winter at a kid’s camp. This is a spoiler free episode.
We also talk about the 16-year-old’s beginnings (lots of competitive sport), being a twin, moving into exec producing as well as acting, alongside her younger sister Violet (The Haunting of Hill House, M3GAN). Together they’re sometimes dubbed scream queens or the Blumhouse sisters (a nod to the horror production powerhouse). But hey, this December they’re producing and starring in a Christmas movie. Plus we talk Maddox Batson, voicing Bonnie in ‘Toy Story 4,’ Disney’s Secret of Sulphur Springs, and so much more. Her enthusiasm is infectious.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, beautiful human. I am Zach. That is Dan N. From Blackphone, too. That's Madeline McGrath. |
| 0:11.5 | Hey. |
| 0:12.4 | Hey. |
| 0:14.1 | Woo! |
| 0:15.9 | Yay. |
| 0:16.8 | I'm very fascinated by you. |
| 0:18.5 | Really? |
| 0:19.3 | Yes, because, like, you're in something like, they were, |
| 0:22.2 | you're in a dynasty family type deal. |
| 0:25.2 | Like, this horror dynasty, you and your sister, |
| 0:27.8 | and then your brother's also in the business, right? |
| 0:30.2 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 0:30.6 | So it's really the three of you? |
| 0:32.6 | Four. |
| 0:33.2 | Four of you? |
| 0:34.4 | Yeah, we have four. |
| 0:35.3 | I have three siblings. |
| 0:36.9 | So how, I want to talk about, like, obviously we're here to talk about Blackphone, too. Right. But I need to understand, like, how do you even get hurt in a family of four? And then how do you even get the, like, how does it work to pursue your dreams when you're also pursuing it with three other people by your side? I mean, honestly, we're kind of like a unit. Like, we're like a team. So, like, we always work together no matter what. And sometimes, say, like, when Megan 2.0 came out when Violet was in it, right? We were all rooting for Violet and we were all traveling with Violet. |
| 1:13.0 | And, like, for me, Black Fun 2 is coming out. |
| 1:17.4 | My whole family is traveling with me to go to, like, New York and then go to the premiere and all that. |
| 1:19.4 | We, like, we really do work as a team. |
| 1:20.7 | I mean, it's real. |
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