John Clark on the channel.

Now, he's written a book about Christian Brookner and, oh my goodness, I was sick to my stomach reading about the monsters lurking in that part of Portugal.

You would have never took a child on holiday there in your life if you knew about the behavior of some of the

people out there and specifically Christian. I mean, he was the kind of guy. He didn't discriminate,

you know, whether it was snatching a kid from a park or a granny would wake up in the middle of the

night and he'd be there with a gimp mask on in the corner of a room saying her name and before he did horrific things there but fantastic writing john real eye-opener i mean whether people believe he was involved with maddie or not just the depth of research he did as to the monsters lurking in that area of Portugal at that time

absolutely terrified me and I was completely gripped but the link for the book and the link for

John's website are all in the description box folks and you know before we get into all this

like I said I was up till midnight watching the channel 4 documentary last night, before we get into all this, like I said, I was up until midnight

watching the Channel 4 documentary last night. But before we go over all that, could you

just briefly tell the viewers, you know, this is probably some new viewers and not familiar

of your work, John. A little bit about you and what got you on this mission, please.

Yeah, good morning, Sean. I know, I know this is your earliest podcast, apparently,

according to one of your comments,

one of your viewers' comments.

I'm sorry about that.

I was up like you last night.

You probably were watching Channel 4 Plus 1 like I was

because I wanted to see the end of the Arsenal game,

which was quite interesting.

And so, yeah, so it was a late night, and it was interesting to see the end of the Arsenal game, which was quite interesting.

And so, yeah, so it was a late night.

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