The idea started out. I have a four-year-old and a one-year-old, but when I had my first baby,

I remember she would just be like laying on my chest or in my arms or on my lap. And, you know,

I used to buy like really kind of crappy fast fashion clothes. Like I just like grew up shopping at like the five dollar

store which I loved and I remember being like oh I really want to buy at least like good t-shirts

so that her little face and her little mouth that she sleeps on me is like on something that I

can feel good about her like laying on so then I set, like, a year and a half to try to find

a t-shirt that I could feel good about, a t-shirt that looks good, that feels good, that is

good for the environment. And then ideally, the last layer was, like, good labor practices.

Sarah Gonzalez usually covers economics.

I mean, I don't cover fashion.

She's a reporter and host of the NPR podcast Planet Money.

We're an economics podcast and we're like fun and narrative.

So Sarah found herself in a pickle that a lot of us might relate to, which is this eternal

question.

How do we buy clothing ethically? Is that even

possible? I mean, it's so hard to be a good shopper, you know, and then you have like children

and they grow out of things and so you have to buy them more things. I'm like a bad consumer. Like, where should I buy this t-shirt that I can feel good about? And then I did an interview with a remarkable woman. Her name is Aisha Barron Blatt. She's the CEO of this group called Remake. Their whole thing is like, we want to like remake the fashion industry. I was asking her like,

you tell me, like where do you shop? Like you've dedicated your life to this. So like, what do you do?

You know, there are certain companies that I like very much. But for the most part, for the last

decade, I'd say I bought very little. Like you come see my closet and there's, you know, six classic

pieces. I do a little rental, a little vintage.

Wait, wait, wait. You have like six pieces of clothes in your closet?

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