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The Rachel Maddow Show

Maddow: For a would-be strongman, Trump is profoundly weak

The Rachel Maddow Show

Rachel Maddow, MS NOW

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4.534K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Rachel Maddow points out that Donald Trump is following the "strongman" playbook so closely, and with such a lack of originality, that his behavior in his second term has become entirely predictable. And yet, for all of his aspirations to be a strongman, his leadership suffers from some profound weaknesses, from the economy to healthcare to criminal justice to immigration.

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0:00.0

Really happy to have you here. First things first, I have an announcement to make on next week's show, this time next week, next Monday, September 22nd.

0:10.0

Kamala Harris is going to be here. This is going to be her first full-scale news interview since the 2024 election.

0:16.9

She will be here live on set with me for the show. I have roughly 400,000 things I want to ask her about. But I will get my chance. We're going to have that sit down one-on-one, one week from tonight right here, 9 p.m. Eastern on MSNBC. That's next Monday, September 22nd. I'm very excited about that.

0:39.7

In the 10 months or so that have transpired since the 2024 election,

0:46.7

it feels like we've had about 10 years worth of news, of course.

0:52.4

But in thinking about talking to Kamala Harris next week, I realized that there's a lot on the

0:59.3

record from her campaign and from her time in public life that is kind of helpful right

1:04.0

now, especially helpful to the point that we shouldn't kid ourselves that anything that that Trump has done is surprising.

1:15.1

We shouldn't kid ourselves that the way he has behaved in office in the second term is a surprise.

1:22.1

I mean, clearly looking back at Kamala Harris' campaign against him, looking basically to

1:27.4

anybody who has been

1:28.4

paying attention anytime in the last, I don't know, a few years, it was not that hard to see it

1:35.7

coming.

1:38.1

Donald Trump has told us his priorities for a second term. He has an enemy enemies list of people he intends to prosecute.

1:47.4

He says that one of his highest priorities is to set free the violent extremists who insulted

1:55.6

those law enforcement officers on January 6th. Donald Trump intends to use the United States military against American citizens.

2:08.9

Pretty much nailed it, right?

2:11.0

That was a week before the 2024 election.

2:14.9

Kamala Harris speaking at the ellipse outside the White House.

2:19.6

And since Trump has been back in office, of course, he has freed the people who attacked the Capitol and assaulted police

2:24.8

officers on January 6th. He has set up his Justice Department and his FBI and as much of the

2:29.8

rest of the government as he can to go after his enemies list, he really does have the U.S.

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