Maddow: Advice on defiance in the age of Trump
The Rachel Maddow Show
Rachel Maddow, MS NOW
4.4 • 35.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 June 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So one of the jobs, one of the specific tasks in my line of work that is harder than you would think, |
| 0:09.7 | just it takes a longer time than you think it will, it kind of wipes you out in a way you might not expect. |
| 0:15.7 | One of the unexpectedly hard things that comes around in the chore wheel in my job is the recording of an |
| 0:24.5 | audiobook, which seems crazy, right? Like, it seems like such a cushy thing, but I'm telling you |
| 0:30.8 | it is weirdly exhausting. And I love audiobooks. I love listening to audiobooks. I like them in |
| 0:37.1 | nonfiction. I like them in fiction. I like experimental audiobooks. I love listening to audiobooks. I like them in nonfiction. I like |
| 0:39.1 | experimental audiobooks. I like like a full cast ensemble ones. I like ones with great actors. |
| 0:44.4 | I like ones read by the author. I love audiobooks. And in my experience, I've got a lot of |
| 0:50.1 | like relevant sort of reps that I've done. I've done a lot of radio work. I've done a lot of |
| 0:57.3 | podcasting. I've also got easy access to a really great comfortable recording studio through my job. |
| 1:04.1 | So, I mean, for me, I probably have an easier time of doing this job than anybody else who |
| 1:10.0 | does it anywhere. But still, it is |
| 1:12.2 | weirdly hard. Even for a pretty short book, it takes days and days and days to do it. At the end of |
| 1:19.4 | each of those daily sessions in the studio, you think you'll have time to like hang out or do other |
| 1:23.7 | work. Note, you're totally pancaked. You need to like lie down and pant for a while and |
| 1:29.2 | not speak. I have no idea why it is so hard, but I know from experience that it is really, really |
| 1:35.2 | hard. And still, still, I just volunteered myself to please, please, please do the recording for somebody's new audiobook. |
| 1:49.3 | For somebody's book, that is not my own book. |
| 1:53.6 | It is this book. |
| 1:55.9 | It's called On Courage by Julia Engwin and Ami Fieldsmeyer. |
| 2:00.7 | On Courage. You know that little pocket-sized paperback |
| 2:03.0 | of Tim Snyder's On Tyranny that you've been carrying around for most of the last decade? |
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