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What if it's True Podcast

Mad Trapper Sheslay Free Mike - Kóoshdaa Káa

What if it's True Podcast

Cameron Buckner

Drama, Fiction, Science Fiction

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Mad Trapper Sheslay Free Mike - Kóoshdaa Káa

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0:00.0

Linginget stories say the Kushtaka or Kusikha is a shape-shifting, otter-like creature that

0:19.1

lures people into the wilderness, sometimes tricking them

0:22.7

to their deaths.

0:25.6

Michael Oros arrived in the wiles of northwest British Columbia in 1972 with a peach-fuzz

0:33.0

beard, carrying a bamboo flute.

0:36.6

Henry Vance, a First Nation Talton man, who spent winters caretaking a hunting guide's

0:42.3

cabin and horses in she-slay, an abandoned native village and mining settlement,

0:48.3

encountered Oroz hiking along the trail from Telegraph Creek.

0:53.3

When Oroz moved into a deserted cabin, Vance suddenly

0:56.9

found himself with a neighbor. In the beginning, Vance and his wife had to take care of the

1:02.5

boy as he struggled to stay alive. But over time, Vance watched the young man harden and

1:09.1

develop his wood skills. He also witnessed increasingly

1:13.4

spooky violent behavior from Oros. For instance, once when Oroes showed up asking for dinner,

1:21.1

he took offense when Vance asked him to wash his hands. All of a sudden, Vance got the feeling

1:26.9

that Oroes was considering murdering him.

1:30.7

Another time, he threatened to kill Vance's wife over a pitied dispute over Oroes' dogs.

1:37.6

Years later, after Vance learned that Oroes had gone on to commit horrible crimes and murders

1:43.0

across the region, Vance said he felt guilty

1:46.2

for having helped him. Our Talton people are helpful people. We help people who are down and out,

1:53.1

Vance said, in an interview on a Canadian radio station. Vance could not have known at the time

1:59.6

that he was helping a man who would become known as Shesley Free Mike,

2:04.3

one of the most infamous and mysterious criminals to ever roam the North Country.

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