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The Gist

Macron Won't Pander, But He Will Panda

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Panda diplomacy from Paris to Memphis. Then Mike's take on why newscasters aren't making a bigger deal about Clarence Thomas being on the take. And we're joined by U.S. State Department veteran diplomat and professor Steven Simon, author of Grand Delusion: The Rise and Fall of American Ambition in the Middle East. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist Subscribe: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In early 2020 best friends Brian and HOTELY set out on a mission.

0:05.0

With whole podcasting means easy, easy, inexpensive, easy, you make a ton of money.

0:11.0

The result, a mediocre comedy podcast.

0:14.0

You're telling me there's a chance.

0:16.0

I'm telling you there's a chance. Why wouldn't you do it?

0:18.0

A for effort you to A for effort.

0:22.0

It's a double rainbow!

0:25.0

The commercial work on Spotify.

0:27.0

Do it in and ride it out.

0:57.0

It is hard to overstate how, quote, badly he mangled both the symbolism and the messaging around its carefully planned China trip.

1:06.0

That according to the Financial Times, which goes on to say,

1:10.0

not only did Macron have a little to show from his efforts to convince Xi to limit his support for Russia.

1:18.0

He created a diplomatic uproar with an interview on the flight home in which he called on Europe to develop its own stance,

1:24.0

independent of the US to deal with tensions between Beijing and Taiwan.

1:28.0

What was Macron thinking?

1:30.0

What was I thinking in trying to pronounce Macron other than Macron?

1:35.0

But really, what was he after?

1:36.0

Was there ever as bad an own goal in international diplomacy as a guy not directly involved in an issue interloping into that issue?

1:46.0

An issue not extremely vital to his own country's interests yet,

1:50.0

setting affairs back in every single way.

1:54.0

Well, it turns out affairs weren't set back in every way.

1:59.0

There was one area where Macron's meeting with China bore fruit.

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