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The Eurointelligence Podcast

Macron vs Le Pen, 2 days out - 22 April 2022

The Eurointelligence Podcast

Wolfgang Munchau

Geopolitics, Recovery Fund, Fiscal Union, Ecb, Italy, News, Politics, Germany, Government, France, European Integration, Political Risk, Uk, China, Trade, Spain, Netherlands, European Union, Brexit, Economics, Eu-china, Business, Political Union, Political Economy, Transatlantic Relations, Eurozone, European Politics, Eu, Banking

4.638 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Our team discusses Sunday's French presidential election run-off, a contest between arrogance and ignorance.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Euro Intelligence Podcast. I'm Wolfgang Muncher and with me are Susanna Muncheng and Jack Smith.

0:07.0

Today we are three days away from the French elections.

0:10.7

Susanna, you've been following this story. Where are we now?

0:14.8

Well, last night we had the crucial duel on television, so Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen had a feisty exchange,

0:25.4

I have to say. They fell each other into the world word. It was really very kind of a populist

0:31.5

a lot of expressions, a lot of accusations of being either hypocrite or being insincere or just mixing up things.

0:41.4

It was a lot about that.

0:43.2

It was interestingly, the two stand for very, very different presidencies.

0:50.0

So, Marina Cape Pen, she came along, expectedly, as someone who is with the people.

0:55.9

She's the candidate of the people, the common people.

0:58.8

The one for the poor speaks up for the poor.

1:01.5

So often she came along across and interrupted Tim and accused him of being very brutal in his delivery and also not consulting and actually not really talking to the people in the streets,

1:11.7

which she did during her campaign.

1:14.5

Whereas Emmanuel Macron, he came well prepared, quite arrogant, but he really made the

1:20.6

points on content and really clearly showed who is the master here in this relationship.

1:28.1

They are still a fairly large number of, or there were at least until a few days ago,

1:32.2

still a large number of undecideds.

1:34.5

Most of them seem to be on the left, who don't know whether they're either not going to vote

1:40.2

or cast a spoiled ballot or vote for either of the candidates.

1:46.4

What did this debate do for the undecides, for those on the left? Would they have been more impressed by her manners or his

1:54.0

arrogance or her policies or being frightened by her policies or impressed by his policies?

2:02.1

Or how would that have? I think there's a double effect.

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