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Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime

Mackenzie Shirilla's Fellow Inmate Talks The Crash, Jail House Calls & What Mackenzie's Really Like

Surviving the Survivor: #BestGuests in True Crime

Big Pond Podcasts

True Crime, News, Society & Culture

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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0:00.0

Mackenzie Shrilla acted like she was Regina George from Mean Girls inside of prison.

0:07.7

She was famous or at least acting like she was famous and she showed absolutely no remorse.

0:15.2

Those are the words of our guests that you're going to hear from.

0:18.2

Her name is Kat Crowder.

0:19.2

She was in prison at the same time as McKenzie Sherella,

0:24.0

and she's here to spill the tea and tell you everything you did not hear in that Netflix documentary.

0:30.7

Welcome to the Global Phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor,

0:34.2

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

0:38.2

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Walton.

0:42.7

What's up, SDS Nation?

0:44.0

Welcome to Survive and the Survivor.

0:45.3

This is the global phenomenon bringing you the very best guests in all of true crime.

0:50.5

Our community has over 50 countries represented in it, including the Kingdom of

0:56.7

Lesotho, which is a landlocked country in South Africa. If you haven't heard of her prior to today's

1:04.1

show, I can guarantee you will. Her name is McKenzie. Sherella, her case, has exploded back into the spotlight after the very popular Netflix

1:14.0

documentary, The Crash and a series of shocking new revelations involving prison behavior,

1:21.3

some secret jailhouse language, some odd stuff that you're about to find out about,

1:26.2

some police body cam footage that is fairly

1:28.9

new and renewed outrage just in general from the public before we get to that i've been harping on

1:35.4

this all week my daughter's back at it on social media arguing with each other um we've got a

1:43.2

TikTok influencer here so i've got to be kind of careful.

1:46.3

Social media, I guess, in some ways, can be used for good.

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