Mackenzie Shirilla’s Crash, Luigi’s Suppressed Evidence, and Incarceration as Intervention, with Ginny Burton
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4.6 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to positively legal. |
| 0:08.0 | I'm John Sbilbor, a criminal defense attorney, Shoe-Maven, and founder of John Sillbore Law. |
| 0:15.0 | Hello everyone, I'm Mark Iglarsh. I'm a criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor, adjunct law professor, |
| 0:22.7 | avid pickleball player, and an all-round fan of my co-host, Jonna. |
| 0:28.0 | Love when you add that in. Today, I'm positively legal. A judge has blocked major evidence from |
| 0:36.3 | Luigi Mangione's state trial, and we're going to discuss that and the vile superfans sporting press passes outside a Manhattan courthouse. |
| 0:48.3 | And I am super excited, John, that we get to talk about this Netflix documentary. It's a number two show in the |
| 0:55.6 | country right now. It's called The Crash. And the accused, who was merely 17-year-old at the time of |
| 1:03.4 | the crash, went to prison. And we're going to discuss whether she deserved to go to prison |
| 1:09.4 | for the amount of time that she did. |
| 1:11.7 | We sure will. And later, I already know I'm going to love this guest. |
| 1:16.9 | Ginny Burton is joining us to share her remarkable story of how she used incarceration as an intervention |
| 1:24.5 | and how she is working to shape public policy. Talk about somebody who literally |
| 1:30.4 | turned her life around. We're going to be speaking with Ginny later in the show. What a story. |
| 1:35.3 | Oh, my goodness. What she went through from childhood to now extraordinary. So glad she's on. |
| 1:40.8 | But right now, Jana, It's happy hour time. |
| 1:46.2 | You got a beverage? What are you drinking? |
| 1:48.7 | I don't. I have a shelter. And the thing I want to talk about is not, is not that happy. |
| 1:54.2 | I got to tell you something. So what's the, let me ask you. |
| 1:57.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:58.2 | When you wake up in the morning that after you get done with the pigeon pose and the warrior and all that. You mean reaching out to my higher power? Yeah. Yeah. After you do that. I do it. Yeah. Do you turn on the television? Do you watch anything in the morning while you're getting ready for the office? No. No. No. No. No. No. Why? Poisoned myself with all that bad news and stuff, the human race consciousness, garbage, not yet. No. Who would want to do that? I don't know. But I do every morning. So I have been, there was a story that I heard on the news this morning before I left my house that I can't stop thinking about. |
| 2:36.3 | Here is why. |
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