Mackenzie Shirilla, Perfect Match Finale & Clayton vs. Laura Owens
After Reality with Courtney Robertson
Courtney Robertson
4.5 • 722 Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
I’m back with a quick summer update before diving into Netflix’s The Crash and the Mackenzie Shirilla case that has completely taken over my algorithm.
After watching multiple documentaries, I went down the TikTok rabbit hole of Shyann Topping — Mackenzie’s ex-girlfriend from prison — and her viral storytelling about what life is really like for women behind bars. Let’s just say, Kim Kardashian is not coming to save you.
Then I’m getting into the Perfect Match finale — the drama, the strategy, the couples, and who actually felt real by the end. I also play a clip from Nick Viall’s podcast that ties into the conversation.
I wrap with a few Bachelor Nation headlines, including the latest on Clayton Echard vs. Laura Owens — and whether she’s really going to accept a plea deal that could mean just two months in jail. A little true crime, a little reality TV chaos, and a lot to unpack.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, who to who. Welcome back to After Reality. It's Courtney Robertson here. Heyo, how's everybody |
| 0:06.9 | doing? T-G-I-F. Is it just me or did this week feel a little bit extra long? Memorial Day weekend. |
| 0:16.0 | I know a lot of my friends felt off. I felt like it was Friday every day. That could be the mom brain, |
| 0:22.1 | but I'm happy you're back and sorry for the late pod, but I've been doing a little summer |
| 0:28.3 | reset and I'm happy to be here. So no summertime sads. And I've got a fun episode for you |
| 0:35.6 | today. Holy mackerel pop culture. I finished a perfect match. |
| 0:40.4 | Allie, wowie. Look at that little tart. I've been catching up on Farmer Wantsa Wife and I took a deep dive |
| 0:49.2 | into Netflix's, you know, the show that went viral, The crash, McKenzie Scorilla, the Skrilla, |
| 0:55.3 | the Killer. |
| 0:56.1 | So I've got a little bit of everything in here for you today, Bachelor headlines. |
| 1:00.8 | There's been a lot going on, but I do think that a summer reset is important. |
| 1:06.4 | Everybody is out of their routines for the parents out there. |
| 1:10.0 | You know, starting last Wednesday, my son |
| 1:12.4 | Joaquin, my heart, my soul. He graduated from kindergarten and my daughter graduated from her |
| 1:20.5 | first year of preschool on the same day. Their ceremonies were at the same time. And I nostalgia like I was like how did this happen |
| 1:31.7 | I could swim in my fields if I let myself I'm a water sign but I felt like just yesterday I was |
| 1:38.4 | bringing him home from the hospital now he's graduating from kindergarten he just started summer camp and is doing field trips. |
| 1:48.3 | And my heart is very much so walking outside of my chest. |
| 1:52.4 | But Jesus take the wheel. |
| 1:55.7 | But yeah, so that started last week. |
| 1:57.9 | And then they were home with me until camp started on Tuesday. |
| 2:01.6 | So parents, |
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