Hello and welcome to the political orphanage. I'm your host Andrew Heaton. A few months ago, we did a deep dive on political philosophy. My friend and classicist Brian Wilson joined me to summon the ghosts of John Locke, Thomas Hobbs, and Rousseau. Today we are sneaking

back into the mausoleum of titanic political thinkers. We're going to stack up

Nikolai Machiavelli, and John Stewart Mill.

This is a thinky fun episode, and I highly encourage you to listen to it before starting

your own civilization.

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