You're listening to live courtroom coverage of the trial of Karen Reed from the Hidden

Killers podcast and True Crime Today. Now, back to the courtroom.

Now, with regard to, we're back to Jen McCabe's phone. we're back to 2740, the issue of deletions,

you stated yesterday that that deletion occurred after January 31 of 2022, is correct correct but you couldn't determine how

that deletion occurred with certainty correct correct and you gave three

possibilities that you analyzed correct three? Three or four, yes.

Three or four.

And one of them was deleted by user, correct?

Correct.

Another one was that the search occurred but never loaded.

That would be the reason that there was no data found in the history.db file.

But that was another of the three or four reasons, correct?

That wouldn't cause the deletion of the record necessarily.

Right. And then you discussed those possibilities, but you can't state with certainty how that deletion

occurred, can you?

Correct.

You have doubts about how it occurred? Is that fair?

Yeah, I have an idea how it occurred, but I can't prove it.

You have... I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's okay.

No, please finish. I want to make sure you finish.

I have an idea of how it occurred, but I've not been able to replicate it.

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