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Depressed greater than 30 percent and it be caused by wheel slippage. That can occur, correct?

The wheel slippage does not cause the accelerator pedal.

I'm not saying a cause and effect.

I'm just saying a correlation.

Do you understand what I mean by a correlation?

Let me, if I may try and straighten this out.

So applying heavy acceleration can cause the wheels to spin. Is that what you're asking me?

Yes. Yes. Okay. That's that's all I wanted to get at. All righty. So in your review of the

materials that are related to January 29, 2022, did you become aware of whether there were,

and you said you extensively reviewed documents,

did you become aware whether there were people

at 34 Fairview?

Yes.

And approximately how many people people without regard to names just

number how many people did you become aware we're at 34 Fairview on January 29th

2020 to the early morning hours how many people approximately did you become

aware we're present?

It depends on which time, but there could be as many as 16. As many as 16. And let's talk about the time period from midnight to 1 a.m. Do you have an understanding of how many people could

have been present at 34 Fairview at that time period.

So I'm going to see you at Tsai Bar in this, Mr. Smith.

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