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Okay, so I did not make any notation that I noted portions that were glass.

Great.

Final point before we get into the actual analysis, on any of the glass, I want to shift gears

to just the glass material that you analyzed and that you looked at and you inspected.

You saw no blood, no skin, no biological material, no tissue, human tissue or otherwise,

on any of those pieces that you inspected, did you?

Upon examination of those items, making observations of those

items, making observations of those types of material, that's not my area of expertise.

I didn't, I don't think I noted anything that was maybe consistent

with that.

So in other words, even though you're not in the bio-material expert section of the lab, you certainly would have noted if they were skin or

biological material or obvious blood on glass pieces.

You were looking at them in many cases through a stereo microchrist, correct?

Yes, I would have made note of observations of anything that I would have noted on the surface.

Great. And you did not? Because you didn't see anything. It was suggested with that, right?

I think I just made note, I don't have to check each item, but I think I did note that there was some dirt debris on some of the items.

Not biological material.

I did not note anything that would be maybe consistent with that.

Great. Thank you. I want to talk about the comparisons that you did.

And you'll forgive me, I'm a visual learner. So I'd like to talk about it in four categories.

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