It's the Ralph Nader Radio Hour.

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Welcome to the Ralph Nader Radio Hour. My name is Steve Scrovan along with my co-host David. Hello David.

Hello, good morning. And we also have the man of the hour, Ralph Nader.

Hello, we're going to know a lot about the difference between corporate science and honest science.

That's right, on the show today, we're going to talk about how corporations manipulate science to make dangerous products seem safe.

We're going to do that with Dr David Michaels, author of The Triumph of Doubt, Dark Money, and the Science of Deception.

He cites bogus studies, congressional testimonies, think tank policy documents, all of these things

are tools in the corporate toolbox to muddy the

waters, to throw up dust, to create doubt about the straightforward conclusions of science.

We have seen this in the climate debate, which just the fact that

I'm using the word debate shows how pervasive it is. There is no scientific debate

about the climate science, but that just shows how effective it has been and this is not a recent phenomenon. This is a tactic that has been used by corporate power and their enablers in the political arena for decades.

The tobacco industry, the auto industry, even in the professional sports industry, they've all tried to cast doubt on the scientific facts when those facts were inconvenient to their profit making.

So we look forward to that discussion with Dr. Michaels,

who has a tremendous amount of experience in the occupational health and safety field.

And as always, after that, we will take a short break to check in with our corporate crime reporter

Russell Mokiber, whose own many reports, regular listeners know, have dealt with the same subject.

In the second half of the show, David and I are going to talk to Ralph about the latest developments in the coronavirus pandemic.

We're going to talk more about what Trump is doing, of course, and Ralph is going to tell us what he thinks about Bernie Sanders status as

front runner in the Democratic primary. And if we have some time left over we'll try to

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