Hey, my friends. What's going on? Welcome to the Astro Hustle. I am Kory Allen. You are you the last time that I checked in your way, and here we are in this moment together. I'm very, very grateful to be here with you, and I hope that you're feeling good. Hope that you are feeling in your zone, you're feeling fresh, and that you're feeling free of fear. And if you aren't, I have got the guests on the show today, who is a fear destroyer, a professional fear destroyer. In fact,

my guest is Lovey, I J.E. Jones. Lovey is a writer, a speaker, a truth teller, and a new book called Professional Trouble Maker. It debuted as a New York Times best seller right before we recorded this conversation. So it's kind of cool timing. She was definitely absorbing and letting that sink in, right, whenever we started talking, which was pretty fun moment to be a part of. But anyway, you're going to dig all of these tips that she has in her point of view on

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All right, my friends. The time is now. Let's go do it. Let's go talk to the fear destroyer herself. Lovey, I J.E. John's.

So how did you get into the fear fighting business?

I got into the fear fighting business because my life is a testament of constantly doing things that feel bigger than me, the things that scare me. And things I'm not sure I'm ready for. And I've been writing on these interwebs for about 18 years.

So half my life. And, you know, at no point in that beginning, did I think writing was a career for me. I was doing it because I just like to do it. And I never stopped. I never stopped. And even as I had a full time job when I graduated from college in marketing, I'd come home and be blogging in the evening. And I think one of the things that I kept on doing was I didn't know whether it had strategy or not. But

constantly writing gave me the practice of telling the truth out loud, which in itself can be scary. But I got the practice of that because I thought, Hey, nobody's really reading this thing. So when people started reading it, I already had to have it. But specifically the fear fighting piece really became clear.

I would say three years ago when I was asked to do my TED talk. And I turned it down twice because I was afraid that I wasn't ready. I was basically like, hmm, I don't even have the capacity for this because doing the TED talk is basically like a part time job at this point.

They run you through a coach. You have all this prep and because they really care about the quality of what shows up on their stage. And I remember being like, I'm too busy. I don't even have the time to devote to be able to come up with the talk. That's this amazing.

So I said no. And I said no again. And then three weeks before TED, I was like, you know what? I'll just go to TED for one day to cheer on my friends because I was emceeing and keynoting a conference in a different city.

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