Lovey Ajay Jones is a New York Times bestselling author and an incredible speaker.

I've actually had the good fortune of sharing a panel with her and Sir Richard Branson, among other people.

And let me just tell you, she is a force of nature.

She sits at this amazing intersection of comedy, of social justice,

and what she calls professional trouble making.

And we talk about professional trouble making through a number of lenses,

one of which is her recent book,

I'm judging you the do better manual.

Now the book's been out for a few years, but it hit the New York Times bestselling list,

I think at number five.

And she's been writing for somewhere on the magnitude of 17 years originally as a blogger.

And we recount her story of thinking like, what am I doing?

I'm just writing.

I'm writing a little blog.

That went from her writing in her spare time to leaving her job, getting a gig covering

the Grammys, and suddenly recognizing that, wait a minute, I'm doing it.

I'm doing the thing that I always wanted to be doing.

So now, 17 years on, she's in New York Times best selling author.

She's got an amazing TED talk about getting comfortable, being uncomfortable, which if you're familiar at all with

the show, I say that all the time because I think it is such an important thing to remember.

It is like a muscle, right? Getting uncomfortable, hitting publish, putting yourself out there,

taking a risk on yourself. And Levy epitomizes these things, which is why I've wanted to be on the show for a few years now.

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