Lunch with Fuchsia Dunlop at Mama Chang (Bonus)

Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2019

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Three years after her first appearance, Chinese food expert Fuchsia Dunlop joins Tyler to celebrate the release of her latest cookbook and talk all things food and China. This time the conversation was held over a special homestyle meal at Mama Chang, the newest restaurant from Chef Peter and Lisa Chang. Together with their daughter Lydia Chang, Fuchsia selected a menu to share with Tyler and a group of friends from the DC food scene. Each dish inspired new avenues for discussion, including the trendiness of ‘Chinese’ cauliflower, why hot pot is overrated, what Western food China has recently perfected, first experiences with Sichuan peppercorns, whether ma la will take over the world, why Michelin inspectors underrate Chinese cuisine, what to serve a Westerner for a Chinese dessert, and much more.

Joining Tyler, Fuchsia, and Lydia around the table were Chef Pichet Ong, Chef Seng Luangrath, David Hagedorn, Stefanie Gans, Rivka Friedman, Natasha Cowen, and Yana Chernyak.

Special thanks to Peter, Lisa, Lydia and all the staff at Mama Chang for the wonderful meal.

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Recorded October 27th, 2019

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0:00.0	Hi everyone, this is Jeff, producer of Conversations with Tyler.
0:07.8	Today we're bringing you a bonus episode featuring Chinese food expert Fuchsia Dunlop, who has
0:12.7	a new cookbook out called The Food of Sish One.
0:16.3	Now long time listeners might remember, we had on Fuchsia way back on episode 15 to talk
0:21.3	all things food in China, I encourage you all to check out that episode if you missed
0:25.4	it.
0:26.4	But for this episode, we opened things up a bit.
0:28.7	Instead of a mostly one-on-one conversation between Tyler and Fuchsia, we invited several
0:33.0	other guests from the DC food scene to chat over a home-style Chinese meal.
0:38.4	The perfect place to host that meal is Mama Chang.
0:41.9	It's the newest restaurant from Chef's Peter and Lisa Chang, and one of the best places
0:46.2	to eat in DC.
0:47.8	Lydia Chang, their daughter, who ever sees the business, hosted us at the table with a
0:52.3	menu she and Fuchsia developed together.
0:54.8	So here's everyone who is at the table.
0:57.4	Tyler Cowan, Mercatus Center, host of Conversations with Tyler.
1:01.7	David Hagridorn, Washington DC, and I'm a former chef and restaurant director and writer.
1:07.0	Stephanie Gantz, Program Director at Cookology, which is a cooking school in Arlington.
1:13.6	I'm saying I'm a chef and owner at Deep Kow, Hanuman, Sen Kow, in Padeg.
1:18.3	I'm Natasha Cowan, I'm Mary Tutailer Cowan, and I love Chang's food.
1:23.4	I'm Rifica Friedman, and I am an avid home cook and a follower of Tyler's blog.
1:27.9	I'm Yana, I'm Tyler's daughter.
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