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And I know it's a little weird because I think court is still

Happening they are going over

The jury instructions right now in debating some of that.

So this will be a pretty quick lunch live, I think,

and then I'm happy to take questions and then I've got a race back this afternoon we are expecting

closing arguments to begin at 1.30 p.m. the jury was instructed to come back at 1.30

2 day for closing arguments. State begins.

We are heard to expect roughly 45 minutes.

The defense, not sure how long,

but roughly 45 minutes.

They've got a lot of exhibits with them.

I was live chatting some of that.

And then the state has a rebuttal.

After that, the instructions are given to the jury,

which is, I think it is a 34-page document,

and it has to be, thank you for loving the fridge wildfire. I got to put up my

logo in my hotel. It's taped on by the way, I don't know how I'm going to get it off.

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