You're listening to the Rule of Life podcast by practicing the way.

In each season, we explore an ancient practice from the way of Jesus and its relevance for the modern era.

This is Season 2, Prayer.

Thank you. You almost called me, John, Mark. Good to be here. Thank you. You almost called me John. I almost did. I caught myself. Yes, that's okay. I would have extended mercy to you in that moment. No, seriously, welcome to the Rule of Life podcast. We're so grateful for your presence and your voice and the life behind your voice. Even more importantly, you are a gift and a friend to me and so many others.

So thanks for coming on. For those of you listening who are not familiar with J.T., you are the founder

of civil righteousness,

which is an international movement of holy activism.

And we'll get you to riff on that a little bit.

You're also a justice and mercy fellow at Bridgetown Church.

So you come out from St. Louis about once a month

and spend a few days or a week in Portland kind of building out a

justice and mercy initiative and culture at our church and far beyond. And you're just such a mentor to

myself and so many others and such a wise soul. You know, there's so many things I love about you. The first time we sat down

for a podcast conversation was right in the middle of 2020 when I was just desperate for our city

was literally on fire. And I was just desperate for a wise one to lead and guide my steps in a very tumultuous kind of moment in our city and our church

in my own personal life. And you, for me, were that kind of luminary, you know, guide.

Wow. It's like in the Here With a Thousand Faces, the Joseph Campbell, the kind of mythology story

where the sage shows up just

when you need him, you know?

And you were that and still are that for me and for so many others.

And so we had a in-depth conversation around justice, which is of course what you are best

known for.

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