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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Lula?s ?zero deforestation? plan for the Amazon

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2022

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Lula Da Silva has pledged ?zero deforestation? in the Amazon as he prepares to become Brazil?s next president, in contrast to the policies of outgoing leader Jair Bolsonaro under whom the destruction of the rainforest has soared. On this edition of More or Less we ask how much of the Amazon has been lost and whether Lula?s aim of zero deforestation can be achieved.

Presenter and producer: Jon Bithrey Editor: Simon Watts: Sound engineer: David Crackles Production Co-ordinator: Jacqui Johnson

(Image: Aerial view of the deforestation of the Amazon: Reuters/Ueslei Marcelino/File Photo)

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0:00.0

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0:11.0

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0:25.4

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0:30.3

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0:37.4

Hello and welcome to more or less on the BBC World Service.

0:41.8

We're your weekly guide to the numbers in the news and in life.

0:45.4

I'm John Bithri.

0:47.1

This week we're talking about the world's largest tropical rainforest, the Amazon.

0:52.5

It's one of the most biodiverse places on the planet,

0:55.9

home to an extraordinary range of plant and animal species, tribal communities, and of course

1:01.7

the mighty Amazon River. But it's well documented that the Amazon is under threat from

1:07.0

loggers, miners looking for gold and other minerals, and the spread of agriculture.

1:13.5

Now, though, environmentalists are feeling more optimistic than usual about the Amazon.

1:18.7

That's because the left-wing Alula de Silva has staged a stunning political comeback,

1:23.5

winning Brazil's presidential election.

1:28.8

Brazil is ready to return to its role as leader in the fight against climate change.

1:34.9

We're going to fight for zero deforestation in the Amazon.

1:43.3

Brazil and the world need a living Amazon. A living tree is worth more than a ton of wood

1:53.9

that's been destroyed illegally by people who are only thinking about easy profit at the expense of the quality of life on earth.

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