Hey friend, welcome to the Muir Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians. Those of us who aren't

pastors or religious professionals, but who work as physics teachers, chiropractors, and

nannies. That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to my good friend Luke Le Fever.

He's formerly a board member at Dave Ramsey's company, Ramsey Solutions.

Today he works as the founder of Holy Work.

Luke and I sat down recently to talk through the seven stages that everybody goes through when creating anything

with God, whether it's a book, a painting, homeschooling curriculum, whatever it might be.

We talked about why failure in your work may be a sign of God's favorite in your life

and we talked about how to journal well in just 11 minutes because I know a lot of you want to be

journaling and talking to God about your work don't know how to do it. Luke is the

guy I would point you to. Trust me you're not going to want to miss this episode with my good friend Luke Lefevre.

Luke Lefevreever welcome back. Yeah, so good to talk to you. Rare repeat guest here on the

Mir Christmas podcast. Oh is it? Is it rare? It's very rare. Oh my gosh so much has happened since I did it. I think we've done this like I don't know.

10 times? Well yes so the last time do you remember where we did this?

We did it at Ramsey and it wasn't Dave's studio it was maybe Ken Coleman's or something like that.

Yeah like the big fancy studio. Yeah.

at Ramsey headquarters. So you had a terrific, this is back in 2019.

You had this terrific job as Chief Creative Officer

on the board, and then in October 22,

you stepped down.

What's the story there?

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