The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everybody, welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Raynor. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their absolute most exceptional work for the

glory of God and the good of others.

Every single week I'm hosting a conversation

with a Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery

of their craft.

We're talking about their path to mastery, we talk about their daily habits and routines, and perhaps most importantly, we're talking about how their faith influences the work they do each day.

So we've been on a run of excellent episodes.

Last week we had Douglas Gresham,

see us loose, his stepson.

This week is an exceptional episode with Luke LeFever, the chief creative officer at Ramsey Solutions.

Yes, that's Dave Ramsey's company.

And over the last year, Luke and I've gotten to know each other pretty well and I'm just really impressed with him.

He's an exceptional leader. He has incredibly well-formed thoughts on faith and creativity and he's just a good dude and he's really fun to hang out with.

So in this episode we talk about the crazy story about how Luke and I met, which involves

somebody finding a copy of Call to create at goodwill, incredibly humbling.

We also talk about the importance of hiring mission-focused peoples in the hiring process

looking for people who are all in on your mission and we talked about why Luke says

journaling is the one thing that he recommends for anybody looking to master the

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