Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, St.S. Nation? Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor. It is the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

And sometimes they include legendary FBI agents who we will introduce in a moment.

But there is so much news coming out about the quote unquote New York City Assassin.

Luigi Mangione is his name name he's alleged to be the

person responsible for this crime obviously you've got to let the legal system play out and we'll

ask alexie about that in a moment just a couple of quick things uh some of this has been out

some of it is brand new but i've got all the brand new stuff. Apparently,

he cut off all ties with his family six months ago. I believe it was November 18th. If I had the

date right, that his mother files a missing person's report. They were apparently actively

searching. And then there is a ton of new stuff to get to before we do that. Let me introduce the esteemed panel here.

Agent Greg McGrary, he entered duty as a special agent with the FBI, December 1st, 1969.

So we also got to see people land on the moon, which is pretty cool.

He's been associated with the National

Center for the analysis of violent crime, the NCAA, since its inception back in 85. He's provided

expert witness testimony and homicide and R trials, SA trials in North America and Europe.

He's authored many books,

including the unknown darkness profiling the predators among us.

They wrote that notably with Dr. Catherine Ransland,

who has studied BGK,

and now infamously has reportedly taught

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