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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

LUIGI MANGIONE DEFENSE: "I WAS EMOTIONAL WHEN I GUNNED DOWN CEO"

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

4.28.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Luigi Mangione is facing both state and federal charge, pleading not guilty.   In the New York state murder case, his attorneys announced plans for a psychiatric defense,  but abruptly withdrew plans to pursue the "extreme emotional disturbance" defense just a day after it was announced. The change in strategy has led to speculation that a plea deal may be in the works.   

Joining Nancy Grace today: 

  • Randolph Rice  - Criminal Defense & Civil Attorney at Rice Law. Former Prosecutor in the State's Attorney Office for Baltimore County   website: ricelawmd.com, IG, FB, X: @ricelaw 
  • Dr. Chloe Carmichael - Clinical Psychologist, Author: "Can I Say That?" "Nervous Energy: Harness The Power of Your Anxiety,” Twitter: @DrChloe, drchloe.com 
  • Sheryl McCollum  -  Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder, ColdCaseCrimes.org,  Host : Zone 7 --  and Author of a new book: "Swans Don't Swim in a Sewer: Solving the Cold Case of the Flint River Killer's Daughter", Twitter: @ColdCaseTips  
  • Dr. Kendall Crowns - Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Host: "Mayhem in the Morgue", Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University) 
  • Lauren Conlin  - reporter, LA Magazine,  Co-Host of "PopCrimeTV" on YouTube, Website: www.popcrime.tv and primetimecrimeshow.com,  X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram: @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV
  • Sydney Silvagni - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:03.2

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.1

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:10.9

The so-called health care assassin, Luigi Mangione's defense bombshell, he claims I was, quote, emotional.

0:26.0

When I gunned down CEO Brian Thompson in cold blood,

0:34.1

he was emotional. I'm emotional, just talking about him being emotional. Emotional when he gunned down Brian Thompson, a married father of little boys sentenced to life without their dad, and he was emotional?

0:45.1

Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us. Did they actually say in court that their client, Luigi Mangiani, is the victim because his quote, beautiful, promising life has been derailed?

1:09.0

His team did paint him as someone with a promising future.

1:12.6

One thing that they say here is that the real enemy here is the medical system.

1:18.6

He is feeling no pain there, Kelly Brantley.

1:21.6

I hope you don't fall for that hookland seeker.

1:24.6

Let me understand what is happening. Now I know why there was a secret hearing to keep the defense

1:33.0

under wraps, but it was too late. The cat was out of the bag. The defense doesn't want the

1:38.6

public to know that the alleged defense for the alleged healthcare assassin is extreme emotional disturbance.

1:48.0

In other words, to mount a mental defect claim such as this, EED, extreme emotional disturbance,

1:57.0

you have to admit you did it, but you were emotional.

2:02.7

Really?

2:04.5

This has been all about Luigi Mangione from the get-go.

2:11.2

He's a young man, and he is being treated like a human ping-pong ball between two warring jurisdictions here.

2:18.3

And they are literally treating him like he is like some sort of political fodder,

2:26.3

like some sort of spectacle.

2:28.3

He was on display for everyone to see in the biggest staged perp walk I've ever seen in my career. There was no reason for the NYPD and everybody to have these big assault rifles that,

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