Lue Elizondo and Sean Cahill: Why the Pentagon Can't Talk About UFOs

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.6 • 606 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2022

⏱️ 179 minutes

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I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Lue Elizondo and Sean Cahill explore UFOs, consciousness, time travel, and the challenges of discussing the phenomenon, touching on element 115, secrecy, and potential future technologies.0:00 Introduction5:22 Element 1158:25 UFOs intervening on nuclear issues?10:11 Imminent cataclysm?14:11 Future selves and time travel19:48 Thick time and Gisin / present moment26:53 Secrecy: private sector vs government?30:23 Dishonor and stigma limiting disclosure37:03 What should I do?45:29 Lue's advice to his children47:52 Field to study UFOs?55:36 Parapsychology1:02:46 Aphantasia and phenomenon1:08:44 Karl Friston episode importance1:09:28 Recovering a UFO craft1:15:54 Types of UAP interaction1:21:10 Attempts to contact UAP1:26:53 Psychedelics and communication1:30:25 Semantics matter1:30:48 Moon evidence of prior intelligence1:34:25 DNA lineage with Others?1:34:49 "Crap is going to hit the fan soon..."1:40:03 Frustration about topic1:51:24 Gov't attracting UFOs?1:52:50 UAP tech advancement?1:53:44 Missing time1:55:51 New Area 51 names1:59:54 Notable UAP incidents2:04:13 USO photograph evidence2:09:07 Sound importance for advanced physics2:10:21 Civilian data collection2:11:49 Holloman base2:13:59 Getting involved in data collection2:17:52 Continued frustration2:28:49 Loving enemy, extending hand, Curt's journey2:53:24 Audience Q&A after Lue/Sean leaveSPONSORS:- That UFO Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcastRESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/9g5e9UzEDkw- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch- Jesse Michels' YouTube (American Alchemy): https://www.youtube.com/c/JesseMichels- Lue Elizondo Part 1: https://youtu.be/aAmFlLfsZKM- Lue Elizondo Part 2: https://youtu.be/wULw64ZL1Bg- Nuremberg UFO Incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg- Karl Friston (the most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M- UFO Joe Murgia: https://www.youtube.com/c/ufojoe1- Jacob Lizzio's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SignalsMusicStudio- Richard Dolan on TOE: https://youtu.be/cDZEb-GKAJ4- Nicholas Gisin on TOE: https://youtu.be/jcHzgy0I6gk- Carlo Rovelli on TOE: https://youtu.be/r_fUPbBNmBw- http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Recall that you can click on the timestamp in the description to skip this longish introduction.
0:05.0	This is a pivotal episode in the Toe series on the phenomenon because it's akin to a meta episode,
0:10.0	with the first half being a talk on the UFO topic and the second half being a talk on the types of talks on the UFO topic.
0:17.0	This makes it a podcast that though salutary you rarely hear about. Thank you to Sean and Lou for their candor and unguardedness.
0:24.0	This is the third interview with Lou Elizondo, outmatching even the previous as his longest interview ever.
0:30.4	This time, we're joined with Sean Cahill.
0:32.7	Lou Elizondo is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent,
0:36.9	mostly known as the director of the now defunct ATIP,
0:39.8	which was a program initiated by the Defense Intelligence Agency in order to study the
0:44.2	UAP phenomenon, also known as UFOs.
0:47.5	Chief Sean Cahill served in the United States Navy from 1995 to 2015, with missions spanning
0:53.4	from anti-terrorism to anti-piracy to interrogations and investigations.
0:58.1	He's a co-founder and strategic advisor at skyfort.org, that is, sk-y-forty.org, which is a think tank
1:05.7	and tech incubator working on UAP studies. Click on the timestamp in the description if you'd like to skip this intro.
1:12.5	My name is Kurt Jiamengel.
1:13.8	I'm a Torontoian filmmaker with a background in mathematical physics
1:17.1	interested in explicating the variegated terrain of theories of everything
1:21.5	from mainly a theoretical physics perspective,
1:24.5	but as well as understanding the role consciousness has to fundamental
1:27.5	reality. The plan is for this podcast sometime this year to lead somewhere, perhaps even earlier,
1:33.5	starting with ideas in gauge theory, which begin in ideas in Lie group theory, and build up
1:38.0	to the infinite categorical approaches to physics, like infinite categories and modal homotopy
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