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Long before Lucy Macbaff became Congresswoman Elect Macbeth from Georgia's 6th District.

She was a guest on this podcast two years ago,

talking about gun violence.

Her son Jordan Davis was shot and killed in Florida

in 2012 because his music was too loud.

In this powerful interview you'll hear Macbeth and Duane Patterson, an anti-gun activist from

Baltimore talk about how they survived gun violence and how they push forward.

This incredible conversation between a mother and a child starts right now. Duane and Lucy, thank you very much for coming in and being on Cape up today.

Thank you for having us. So you're both victims of gun violence in different ways.

And Duan, I want to start with you, but just asking you to tell your story.

The story of my gun violence champion incident begun going into my senior year in high school.

And we're talking Baltimore.

Yes.

East Baltimore just returning from John Hopkins University Summer Job.

And while on the bike traveling to my aunt's house, I picked my head up and I realized

it was a gunman at my side. And he asked me to kick all my stuff out all my belongings, give him everything I had.

I looked down and shook my head, but I gave him everything and if that wasn't enough

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