Lucy Letby - No More Charges
The Trial
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🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the news that Lucy Letby will not be charged with more offences. While detectives felt there was enough evidence to charge her with 11 offences - two of murder and nine of attempted murder, the CPS disagreed. So what does it mean?
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| 0:00.0 | The Crime Desk. Arresting Podcasts. |
| 0:05.1 | Welcome to the Trial UK. I'm Caroline Cheatham. |
| 0:18.6 | Hi everyone. |
| 0:26.4 | So this is a bit of an emergency extra episode today on Tuesday afternoon. |
| 0:32.8 | And it was due to be, and it's still going to be actually, a fascinating interview with Dr. Susan Gilby. |
| 0:36.6 | Now, she was the former chief executive of the Countess of Chester Hospital. |
| 0:41.8 | Last week, she was awarded £1.4 million for unfair dismissal from the NHS. |
| 0:50.0 | And the story of the conspiracy, the levels of this conspiracy, which was put in place by a small team of NHS leaders, primarily at the countess, to get rid of her is mind-blowing. And a few days ago, |
| 0:57.7 | she sat down with us to tell her story for the first time. Now, Susan Gilby, of course, |
| 1:03.1 | was brought into the Countess at exactly the same time that Lucy Lettby was arrested. We're still |
| 1:09.1 | going to bring you that interview because it is |
| 1:11.4 | incredibly important, but we're going to bring it you tomorrow instead because we need to |
| 1:17.3 | bring you a special episode today with an important update on the Lucy Lettby case. We know, |
| 1:24.0 | since her convictions, for multiple charges of murder and attempted murder in |
| 1:27.9 | 2023 and 2024 after two jury trials, the police had started to investigate if she may have |
| 1:36.6 | been responsible for harming any other babies, not just at the Countess of Chester, but also during |
| 1:43.2 | her student training at Liverpool Women's Hospital. |
| 1:47.0 | Now, this investigation has been going on now for several years, led by Cheshire Police. |
| 1:51.3 | And what we can now tell you is that Lucy Letby will face no more charges. |
| 1:58.6 | This decision, we understand, was taken by the Crown Prosecution Service and it's not |
| 2:03.1 | a decision which Cheshire Police support. Liz, I think we should say that we started hearing some |
| 2:09.5 | sort of rumblings if you like about this very, very late last night, but we weren't sure really |
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