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The Trial

Lucy Letby: Conviction

The Trial

The Crime Desk

True Crime

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Liz and Caroline speak to Danny Bogado, the director of a new Channel 4 documentary called Conviction: The Lucy Letby Case. They discuss why he wanted to make a film on the case, how he recruited contributors and why he feels it is important that audiences make up their own minds about her guilt or innocence.

The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.


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0:00.0

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0:08.0

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0:34.2

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0:38.7

Ah, Benny's parents, thanks for coming.

0:40.5

Hiya.

0:41.2

So, Benny has really blossomed this term.

0:43.8

You're telling me, he outgrew his bike.

0:46.0

We sold it, on eBay.

0:47.8

Oh, that's not quite what I meant.

0:49.3

It's free to sell on there.

0:50.6

Free to sell?

0:51.7

Easy too.

0:52.6

Sold Benny's bike, your guitar, my jacket. You sold my guitar? Shall we talk about Benny? When it's this easy to sell for free, you can't help but say you on it's eBay. Things people love. Teas and sees apply, Exclused vehicles. This is an ad by betterHelp. Did I talk too much?

1:11.5

I should have handled that better.

1:12.6

Why can't I just let it go?

1:13.9

Why did I do that?

1:14.9

I wish I would stop.

1:15.4

I would think so much.

1:16.8

Take a breath.

1:17.9

You're not alone.

1:19.1

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