I keep returning to the line in the book of Babylon where she talks about the shapes of hell

are turned again to loveliness.

And that's very much what I've found through the process of this.

Like I found a deeper appreciation for all of the heresies of our history, all of the spirits

that we encounter, whether they seem benefic or

malefic, we're all, we as magicians are living in a very morally ambiguous space, and I

wouldn't really have it any other way, because I think that is the human experience. And

Lucifer, Lucifer points to the brightest and best aspects of this, but it also comes with a certain

degree of darkness.

Ladies and gentlemen, do I have a special treat for you? The one and only Peter Gray, author, half of scarlet imprint, raconteur, all kinds of titles

we can throw at this man, is joining us once again on the august occasion of the

publication of 2019's most anticipated book lucifer praxis how you doing sir

doing very well doing Doing great, Gordon.

Well, first of all, congratulations are in the book.

It is marvelous.

Well done.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Yeah, I just made it look easy.

Well, you put in the hours.

Let's say that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's as you know, when you're producing a magical book,

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