Welcome to this Jungian life.

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee,

and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst,

on Cape Cod.

Thank you. A little over half of us have had that strange and uncanny experience of lucid dreaming.

About 23% of people say that they lucid dream every month. Various mystical practices cultivate lucid dreaming as part of their spiritual practice and even a preparation for the

afterlife. 19th century occultists worked tirelessly to escape the body and travel the inner

plains at will.

And the recently published Dan Brown book, The Secret of Secrets,

also explores the uncanny powers of consciousness

and the possibility that maybe consciousness extends beyond the physical brain.

So when we find ourselves lucid dreaming,

we often will take it as an opportunity to feel omnipotent,

will want to vault into the air.

Resting the power of the dream away from the dream maker and putting it in the hands of the

ego may be an uncertain proposition that deserves some careful consideration.

You know, this has been a topic that has been very frequently requested on the podcast. And I think I felt a little resistance to talking about it because there isn't a big opus of work around lucid dreaming and Jungian dream work. That intersection, it's there, but it's a little, it's a little

sparse. And I know there's a lot of excitement, like you're saying, Joseph, about lucid dreaming

so much online. Whenever I'm looking up something and dreaming on the internet, it's just you can't

help but find something about lucid dreaming, a lot of

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