You know, it's like a library. You know in your mind that you have an image that comes from something you saw.

So I try to get into those shelves and pull down what I like and see them.

I'm Sean Fantasy Editor and Chief of the Ringer and this is the big picture,

a conversation show with some of the most interesting filmmakers in the world.

Luca Guadagnino might be the world's foremost sensualist. His film's drip with passion,

romance, heavy physical feeling. Think of Timothy Shalame and that peach and call me by your name.

Or Ray Fines thrusting his pelvis to the Rolling Stones in a bigger splash.

So Luca's new movie, a reimagining of the Italian horror classic Suspiria, is both a surprise and a

no-brainer. It isn't just sensual, it's visceral. It's set in an elite dance school in 1970s

Germany that's masquerading as the home for a covenant of witches. The tension mounts and mounts

and mounts and then blood sprays everywhere. It feels like a culmination of all that passion

building until it bursts. I talked to Luca about why he made this movie. His life and work after

the incredible success of call me by your name. And why Bob Dylan is his next muse. Here's Luca Guadagnino.

I'm quite delighted to be joined by Luca Guadagnino. Luca, thank you for coming in. Thank you for

having me here. Luca, I must say I'm a big fan of the original Suspiria and when I heard that you

were taking on the new Suspiria, I was a little surprised. But then I thought about I am love. I

thought about a bigger splash. I thought about call me by your name. Movies that are about

artistic people coping with external forces and it started to make a lot more sense to me.

Is that what drew you to it originally as well? Now that you say it probably, but I don't know if I

consciously had this kind of projection in my mind because in truthfulness I did wanted to make

Suspiria much earlier than I wanted to make the other movies you mentioned. So in a way,

Suspiria is somehow kind of my first desired thought of project. When did it first come into your life,

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