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Hello, I'm Jody Martinson.

I'm the creator and producer of other people's problems.

Welcome to this special podcast extra where we're going to talk really concretely about suicide

and what we can do to help ourselves and the people around us who are struggling with that.

I'm, of course, joined by Hillary McBride, our host and the therapist and other people's problems. Hello.

And today we're joined by Lou Ripley. She's the director of community learning and engagement

at the Crisis Intervention and Suicide Prevention Center of BC. Parts of her job that I think are so

relevant to what we're talking

about today. Lou, you actually do some trainings with people to help them work through what to do

about suicide in their own communities. And you also do bereavement services for people who've

lost someone. Is that correct? Yep, that's right. You had a chance to listen to the session between Hillary and Bell.

Can you share a little bit about what struck you in what you heard?

Well, I think the biggest thing that struck me is that it was clear.

I think when you listened to it that Bell was having thoughts of maybe not existing anymore.

But there was an our story there.

There was another truth.

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