LTB!: Lightning Network Messaging, Political Expediency and What Crisis Has Revealed
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4.8 • 689 Ratings
🗓️ 26 April 2020
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
On today's show we've got a pair of interviews for you. First we speak with John Cantrell, the author of Juggernaut, a new messaging layer 3 application being built on top of layer 2 lightning network, which is itself built on top of layer one bitcoin. It's a lot of layers, but as a technological concept currently in beta it's a fascinating project, and we talk about it. (Juggernaut on Github)
After the break we're joined again by Alex Gladstein of HRF.org for a discussion on political expediency in the age of pandemic and what crisis has revealed about various governments, and different types of governments around the world. Alex is one of my favorite returning guests, with his global human rights focused work taking him to some of the most interesting and most oppressed places around the world
"What's interesting is that citizen journalists I know in Taiwan have pressed the government on this and they've gone to parliament and it's all on record, and they've said 'Have these (...) digital contact tracing or cell phone surveillance things been useful?' And the governments said "Only in one case.... Only in one case was this sort of mass surveillance approach been useful', so they've actually been honest with the people... But at the end of the day it does teach us that even the most progressive governments are going to be lured by the sirens call of using surveillance to tackle problems." - Alex Gladstein, Chief Strategy Officer HRF.org
This episode of Let's Talk Bitcoin is sponsored by eToro.com and features content from John Cantrell, Alex Gladstein and Adam B. Levine. Todays show features music by Jared Rubens and Gurty Beats with editing by Jonas. Album Art original photo by Goh Rhy Yan on Unsplash
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| 0:00.0 | Hi and welcome. This is episode 434 of the Let's Talk Bitcoin Show. On today's episode, the hosts are off, and we've got a pair of interviews for you. First, we talk to John Cantrell, the author of Juggernaut, a new communications layer 3 application being built on top of Layer 2 Lightning Network, which is itself built on top of |
| 0:21.3 | layer 1 Bitcoin. It's a lot of layers, but as a technological concept currently in beta and usable, |
| 0:26.8 | it's a fascinating project, and we talk about it. After the break, we're joined by Alex Gladstein |
| 0:31.4 | of HRF.org for a discussion on political expediency in the age of pandemic, and what |
| 0:36.4 | crisis has revealed about various |
| 0:38.0 | governments and different types of governments around the world. |
| 0:41.0 | Alex is one of my favorite returning guests with his global human rights focused work, |
| 0:44.2 | taking him to some of the most interesting and most oppressed places around the world. |
| 0:48.2 | And this conversation is what the kids used to call a banger. |
| 0:51.4 | I actually have no idea what the kids would call it today, but you can send me an email at Adam atltbshow.com if you've got a better idea. |
| 0:58.1 | Today's episode is sponsored by etorro.com. Thank you very much to them. Let's Talk Bitcoin is owned by the hosts and editorially independent, but you can find new episodes every Sunday on the CoinDesk podcast network at CoinDestock.com, the LTB network at let's talk |
| 1:11.0 | bitcoin.com, and on our privately managed show only subscriber feed at LTB Show.com. |
| 1:16.5 | With all of that said, I'd like to welcome you to this, episode 434 of Let's Talk |
| 1:21.1 | Bitcoin. My name is Adam B. Levine. I'm a journalist, entrepreneur, and an editor at |
| 1:25.3 | CoinDesk. With all of that said, let's jump right in. |
| 1:29.7 | I'm here with John Cantrell, developer of the Juggernaut Messenger application, |
| 1:33.7 | built on top of Bitcoin's Lightning Network, and which is currently in beta. |
| 1:37.5 | John is very privacy conscious, and we've agreed to let him appear on the show using a voice modifier. |
| 1:42.3 | John, thank you very much for your time. |
| 1:44.3 | Of course, happy to be here. |
| 1:46.1 | So over the last couple of months, it's become clear if it wasn't before, |
| 1:49.3 | that with Public Square-type tech platforms such as YouTube from Google, Twitter, Facebook, |
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