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gay parents series. This is our fourth installment. If you didn't hear last week's episode or the two

before that, go check those out before you listen to this one. I think you'll like them. They're some of our

most popular episodes ever. Those are episodes 60, 62, and 80. All right, so when we left off last

week, Tristan was pregnant, and stuff was tense between him and his husband Biff.

I'm going to tell you right now, things are about to get even harder.

But I promise you, listening to these guys, you will learn a ton about communicating and about digging yourself out of a communication rut when it feels like you're just sinking

deeper and deeper.

Okay, so quick recap here.

Last year, Tristan and Biff adopted their two kids. There's Riley,

he's eight, and Haley, she's five. They were Biff's sisters' biological children. So soon

after the adoption, Tristan tells Biff he wants them to expand their family, have a biological

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