Loyalists vs. Patriots and the American Revolution

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🗓️ 28 December 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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In this episode, Joyce Lee Malcolm, author of The Times That Try Men’s Souls: The Adams, the Quincys, and the Families Divided by the American Revolution—and How They Shaped a New Nation, and Eli Merritt, author of Disunion Among Ourselves: The Perilous Politics of the American Revolution, explore the origins and clashing ideologies during the American Revolution, how loyalists and patriots feared civil war, and how the founders’ fears of demaguges influenced their approach to constitutional design and politics. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates. This program was streamed live on December 13, 2023. Resources: Eli Merritt, Disunion Among Ourselves: The Perilous Politics of the American Revolution Joyce Lee Malcolm, The Times That Try Men's Souls: The Adams, the Quincys, and the Battle for Loyalty in the American Revolution The Declaration of Independence Eli Merrit, "Why demagogues were the Founding Fathers' greatest fear," LA Times Questions or comments about the show? Email us at [email protected]. Continue today’s conversation on Facebook and Twitter using @ConstitutionCtr. Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate, at bit.ly/constitutionweekly. You can find transcripts for each episode on the podcast pages in our Media Library.

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0:00.0	Hello friends. I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution
0:06.6	Center and welcome to We The People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.
0:10.8	The National Constitution Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit charted by Congress to increase awareness and understanding of the Constitution among the American people.
0:19.0	This week we're sharing an episode from our companion podcast live at the National Constitution Center.
0:24.8	In this episode, Joyce Lee Malcolm and Eileen Merritt joined me to explore the origins and
0:29.2	clashing ideologies during the American Revolution. They also discussed the framers fears of
0:35.2	demagogues and civil war. The program was streamed live on December 13th, 2023.
0:40.8	Enjoy the show.
0:44.0	It is wonderful to introduce our great panel.
0:47.0	Joyce Lee Malcolm is professor
0:49.0	emerit of law at the Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University.
0:53.2	She's the author of several great books,
0:55.5	including the tragedy of Benedict Arnold in American life.
0:58.8	Peters wore a New England slave boy,
1:01.9	an important work on the Second Amendment, and a new book which she'll discuss
1:06.6	today, The Times that Try Men's Souls, the Adams, the Quincy's, and the families divided by the American Revolution and how they shaped
1:15.0	a new nation.
1:16.4	And Eelie Merritt is a political historian at Vanderbilt University where he researches
1:22.3	demagogues, democracy, and the founding principles of the United States.
1:26.2	He's the author and he's the editor of how to save democracy, inspiration, and advice from
1:30.5	95 world leaders and the curse of demagogues lessons learned from
1:35.0	the presidency of Donald J Trump. He writes the sub-stack newsletter American
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